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		<title>iChurch.com Scam: iChurch Responds but Doesn&#8217;t Stop Scamming</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[iChurch.com has responded to their scamming ways. But they haven't stopped scamming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/dating/ichurch/">iChurch.com</a>, the <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/dating/christian-dating/">&#8220;Christian&#8221; dating</a> site has been <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/2009/11/16/christian-dating-scam-ichurch/">scamming members</a> for a while now with their &#8216;validation&#8217; fee that then rolls over into an expensive membership fee.<span id="more-272"></span> You only know this by reading the fine print. Their normal response to customers <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/2010/03/17/ichurch-dating-site-review-ichurch-com/">hasn&#8217;t been great</a>.</p>
<p>Last week <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/dating/ichurch/">iChurch.com</a> did indeed respond to the many comments on this site by <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/2009/11/16/christian-dating-scam-ichurch/#comment-322">commenting</a> as follows:</p>
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<em>iChurch would like to apologize to all of our members that feel like they were misinformed about their membership or did not have a good experience during their membership at iChurch.com. Our company policy is to try to resolve all complaints that our members have about our service and I regret that our customer service has fallen short of your needs. We have added additional customer service representatives to better service our members and expanded our refund policy so that hopefully no member that is deserving of a refund or misinformed about the cost of the membership when signing up will ever feel the need to go anywhere else to complain other than our website, support email staff or phone lines.</p>
<p>If you are dissatisfied with your membership or would like to suggest a way for us to better our customer service, please contact us at support@ichurch.com or 1-877-295-8966 and we will be happy to assist you.</p>
<p>Sarah, iChurch Support Staff</em>
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<p>So, I figure, the iChurch.com online dating billing scam has been stopped, right? Nope. It&#8217;s still live. See for yourself:<br />
<center><img src="http://www.toronto-dating.ca/images/ichurch.jpg" alt="ichurch dating scam"></center></p>
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		<title>iChurch Dating Site Review: iChurch.com</title>
		<link>http://toronto-dating.ca/2010/03/17/ichurch-dating-site-review-ichurch-com/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reviews of iChurch Christian dating site are in. After we posted about iChurch scam whereby they charge you $1.95 to &#8216;validate&#8217; yourself (you can&#8217;t even see the photos on dating profiles until you &#8216;validate&#8217; yourself) but then automatically &#8216;renew&#8217; that with a charge of $149.97 (a three month membership) if you don&#8217;t cancel in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reviews of iChurch Christian dating site are in. After we posted about <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/2009/11/16/christian-dating-scam-ichurch/">iChurch scam</a> whereby they charge you $1.95 to &#8216;validate&#8217; yourself (you can&#8217;t even see the photos on dating profiles until you &#8216;validate&#8217; yourself) but then automatically &#8216;renew&#8217; that with a charge of $149.97 (a three month membership) if you don&#8217;t cancel in time.<span id="more-241"></span></p>
<p>What happens when you <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/2009/11/16/christian-dating-scam-ichurch/#comment-205">ask about the iChurch.com validation fee</a> before paying it? More than one commenter told us that <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/2009/12/07/ichurch-scam-their-response-sorta/">iChurch simply removes your account</a> without answering the question at hand.</p>
<p>What happens when you do get dinged by iChurch for the three month membership? Good luck getting them to respond to you. <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/2009/11/16/christian-dating-scam-ichurch/#comment-256">No response via email or getting return calls from voice mail messages left</a>. And if you miraculously do get a hold of them? iChurch <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/2009/11/16/christian-dating-scam-ichurch/#comment-263">gives you the runaround</a>. Alternatively, they&#8217;ll <a href="http://www.ripoffreport.com/computer-fraud/ichurch-com/ichurch-com-frauds-thiefs-s-47938.htm">just say &#8216;no&#8217;</a>. </p>
<p>People are even <a href="http://toronto-dating.ca/2009/11/16/christian-dating-scam-ichurch/#comment-236">calling for a class-action lawsuit</a></p>
<p>Who runs iChurch.com? If you <a href="http://whois.domaintools.com/www.ichurch.com">try to see the ownership via their domain name ichurch.com</a>, it&#8217;s private. Why would a legitimate company keep their domain contact information private?</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for an iChurch.com dating site review? Two words: Stay away.</p>
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		<title>eHarmony&#8217;s Gay Matching Could Backfire With Core Christian Audience</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With eHarmony announcing that they will no longer fight against having to allow gay matching, their original core audience is starting to take note. eHarmony was started amongst the evangelical Christian community which was key in it&#8217;s growth to take on larger sites such as Match.com. Now that eHarmony has abandoned their Christian values (although [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With eHarmony announcing that they will no longer fight against having to allow gay matching, their original core audience is starting to take note. eHarmony was started amongst the evangelical Christian community which was key in it&#8217;s growth to take on larger sites such as Match.com. Now that eHarmony has abandoned their Christian values (although they&#8217;ve been trying to separate themselves from the Christian community for a while now &#8211; going after more of the secular dating market), they <a href="http://www.labusinessjournal.com/article.asp?aID=87702298.2703463.1714258.8883439.8668097.871&amp;aID2=131857" title="LA Business Journal">could lose many of their Christian members</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><span class="article">&#8216;EHarmony.com Inc.’s recent decision to provide a same-sex dating service has provoked a backlash among some in the conservative Christian community, who were once the company’s most loyal supporters and reliable customers.&#8217;</span></em></p></blockquote>
<p>eHarmony isn&#8217;t the only company alienating the Christian singles community. BigChurch.com is a Christian dating service owned by Penthouse, and ChristianMingle is owned by publicly traded Spark Networks, which also offers gay matching albeit on their other properties. Of the major players in the Chrstian online dating space, ChristianCafe.com seems to be the only true Christian-owned/operated option.</p>
<p>Of course, there will always be a portion of the Christian community that will continue to pay membership fees to companies who do not hold their values true to heart (because those sites are fulfilling their &#8217;singles&#8217; needs), but there will definitely also be those that leave in droves upon hearing the news. It may come down to how much publicity these companies get and thus how many of the evangelical Christian community become aware of what is really going on with the companies they support. This could get interesting&#8230; Stay tuned.</p>
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